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Toxic Family Drama: High Body Counts, Racist Jokes, and Polyamory Problems
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Ever wonder what happens when family boundaries collapse spectacularly? This episode peels back the curtain on some of the most jaw-dropping relationship conflicts you'll ever hear.
We start with a family dinner gone disastrously wrong when a sister publicly shames her brother for being a virgin, only to have her own sexual history unexpectedly revealed to her husband. The fallout raises fascinating questions about loyalty, retaliation, and whether some secrets are better left untold.
Then we explore a mother's powerful response to her teenage son's racist comment toward a delivery driver. While her husband dismissed it as "just a joke," she created a meaningful learning experience requiring research, written reflection, and a face-to-face apology. This story sparked our own conversation about racism, microaggressions, and the lingering trauma they create—including a personal account of how seemingly innocent comments can trigger painful memories for those who've experienced discrimination.
The absurdity reaches new heights with the tale of a surprise wedding disguised as a costume party, where a guest's Corpse Bride outfit sparked relationship-ending drama. And we close with perhaps the most thought-provoking story: the long-term psychological effects on a child raised in a household where polyamorous relationships consistently took precedence over parenting responsibilities.
These stories all circle around a central question: What happens when the people closest to us fail to respect our boundaries or place their desires above our wellbeing? Whether you're navigating complex family dynamics or questioning your own relationship choices, this episode offers both cautionary tales and opportunities for reflection.
Have you experienced similar boundary violations in your relationships? We'd love to hear your thoughts on where these families went wrong—and how you would have handled these situations differently.
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Do this. I'm mighty asshole for telling my extended I haven't read this. I'm mighty asshole for telling my extended family how many men roughly my sister has slept with till she outed our youngest brother for being a virgin. You can get outed for being a virgin. That's also a wild thing to talk about in your family. Okay, I'm going to see if there's more about that. Okay, there's more.
Speaker 1:We had a family dinner this evening. My family has four kids Me, my older sister, 29, female. My younger sister, 24, female, and my youngest brother, 22, male. My younger sister, 24 female, and my youngest brother, 22 male. Okay, so extended family attended our family dinner, so all of our significant others, our cousins, our aunts, our uncles, et cetera.
Speaker 1:During the dinner, my oldest sister and youngest brother got into a disagreement. My sister seemed, at least to me, to be coming across as very aggressive Out of frustration and losing said argument. The two of them were too absorbed in their argument to realize the rest of us were getting a bit fed up. Eventually my sister got really fed up and said shut up, I'm not going to argue with you with a 22-year-old virgin. Damn, oh Damn. My brother hadn't done any personal attacks up until that point. It was completely unprovoked. I think it might have been the alcohol. My sister is a mean drunk. Anyway, I immediately told my sister to grow up and that she was making an embarrassment of herself. She replied by saying everyone knows he's a virgin Damn, because she didn't say anything wrong. What if his girl just went to another school? You know, you just don't know her, bro. He's annoying me, as my bro definitely has confidence issues or, and doesn't need to be made fun of like this.
Speaker 1:So I responded by saying how she slept with well over 100 men while she was in college. 100 in four years. Wait, hold on, let me that. That's like 25 a year. 25 a year, oh, two a month, that's not that crazy. Two a month, two random men a month, yeah, hiv is spreading. Well, hopefully they're using Fucking protection, bro, like no Raw dog, even if you're using protection, you can still catch it. It's 90%, it's not 100. Effective oh what? It's 99.999 percent effective against ssd. Yes, oh shit, but it's not over percent. You can use a condom and still get going on. Yeah, what if you get two car using two condoms is actually worse, is the same percentage, because the friction rips the condoms apart.
Speaker 1:So I responded by saying how she slept with the hunter man while she was in college and that since everyone in her in the family knows this is, this is not a big deal. Right, turns out her husband didn't know this, amazingly. I generally assumed he must have known. He left the party angrily, saying my sister misled him about her past, families blaming me about their martial problems. I refused to accept I did anything wrong. My sister bullied my brother in front of everyone and all I did was give her a taste of her own medicine.
Speaker 1:You know what, as an older brother, is. That is a cheap thing of you to do. Oh, to hold it down for your family. Oh, yeah, dude, wait. So so is the? Is it the poster of? Is it the brother? That's like?
Speaker 1:Am I the asshole for being a man? Yeah, nah, bro, yo, it's like you can't do that shit where it's like, if you dish it, you can't take it, and I feel like a lot of mean girls who are mean drunks do that. Uh, facts, and I don't like it at all. So it might be a bias being both male but like, still at the same time, like why the are you just like on your little brother, dude, especially in front of your entire family, like what the is that? That is wild. And you, over a hundred guys, dude, that college was so fun for you, college was so fun for you, college was too fun for you. Like we didn't get some SDI testing fun, you know? Oh man, total, like what's the name of that? Bonnie Blue, or Lily, lily Phil, shit, oh yeah, what is that? Like a thousand men in a day, dude, that's wild. Like okay, but men in a day, dude, that's wild. Like okay, but like statistically I don't know if those numbers add up, you know what I mean Like there's no way to. Actually, it's like there's only two pumps, yeah, like per person or something right, it's still technically sex. Yes, is that technically sex? Do you need to finish the four to be technically sex? I think the communication of Gary Shuna sucks. How deep are his legs? But the difference is with the Bonnie Blue and the Lily Phillips or whatever, those only fans, yeah, whatever, who knows what their names are? We never watch that.
Speaker 1:They monetized it, this chick. They monetized it. This chick didn't monetize it. Actually, she did, yeah, she did the thing that they did without the $3 million or whatever. That's wild.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's the asshole. I think, if anything she's the asshole. She wasn't in front of her husband, I mean, but that's the asshole, I think, if anything she's the asshole. She wasn't in front of her husband, I mean, but that's the thing that like, but he can't be on formula that way. So, yeah, you can't, like you had to be. Oh, my body counts fucking 75 or some shit, right, like it's like hey, hey, honestly, it doesn't really body count matters, but it doesn't really matter, like, it depends on your personality. If you're like a shitty person, do you want the rest of this? No, nope, no, there's only literally a bit left. Do you want it? Yeah, I'll tell you. If you don't want it, yeah, go for it. No, I have like my couple. Oh, we still got the soju, so, okay, I'll find another one. And yes, podcast, we are actually drinking while we're doing this, hence the pregame. We're not alcoholics, we swear.
Speaker 1:Am I the asshole for punishing my son after he said something racist? Yes, oh, wait, what? Okay, wait, how racist. About a week ago, my Shit 39. 39? 39.
Speaker 1:My 39 female family ordered Chinese food for delivery when the delivery guy came to the door and my daughter, 16 female, was taking the cat upstairs to put in her room and because he always tries to eat the food, my son 13 male. Loud he said make sure to hide the cat from the chinese guy, as I'm at the door getting the food for the chinese delivery guy. He very obviously heard what my son said and was upset by it. I quickly apologized and took the food. I told my son that the racist jokes are completely unacceptable and very wrong and he refused to admit that he was in the wrong. So later at night I forced my son to write a sincere apology to the delivery driver. His name was on the receipt, as well as a one-page paper on Chinese culture and a one-page this is like an Ellen Pong bailing white woman A one-page paper on why racism is perpetuated by racist jokes and stereotypes. Then the next day I took him to the restaurant and had him read the apology I loved the delivery driver as well as give him the papers he wrote.
Speaker 1:The delivery driver was very appreciative of the apology and thanked me for making my son do it. He then told my son about multiple instances where he faced racist comments and attacks from people while he was a delivery driver. Dad died. My husband, 43 male and I got into an argument about me making our son do this. He told me that it was embarrassing for our son to have to do an apology and that the punishment didn't fit the crime. What I told him so he's the one, he's the one that taught him how to do that. I told him that it was much more embarrassing for the delivery driver to face that kind of racism and racist stereotypes and our son would get over the embarrassment. I agree, I do not condone any kind of hateful thinking, and the fact that my son said that embarrassed me as well. Good for you, man.
Speaker 1:I really like this white woman. My husband told me that it was just a joke and it wasn't that big of a deal. I feel that it might have. I might have overreacted, but I think it's important to help my son understand what he said. It was wrong and hurtful. I totally don't think you're the asshole. I think you're. She's actually like an angel, like she was. This is a white family, I'm assuming so, and even though it was not, it was black or whatever. It's just not Chinese, oh, okay, not Asian. So Dude, because then you know there's a deeper, there's a deeper conversation there, right, like what the fuck is our husband talking about all day?
Speaker 1:It was just like my only thing would be like, how did you not notice your husband was like simple sympathetic to racist jokes. I mean a racist joke can be fine if you know the person. I mean it can be fine if you know a person, yeah, if, and what? By know the first, I mean like literally know that the person's okay with racial jokes. Is there? Okay, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying like, oh yeah, you, me and you, I know you and I just tell you a racist joke. Yeah, I just start saying n word all day. Exactly exactly that's how I'm saying. I'm saying like you know that this person and you have, you, you have that type of banter which is kind of ridiculous. But like, at the same time, if it's, if it's consensual, why not players, they'll play? Uh, oh, you want something? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I think overall I side with a white woman and I feel her plight. I don't know why she's married to a guy that don't those racist jokes, but such is life in middle America, bro, that's wild yo and that's the shit that um dude like I you know, I've worked hard to let shit go right. Like you know being immigrant and you know you give people certain leeway, I guess, for you know making comments that like they think are funny or whatever, right, yeah. But, dude, like, I think there's still a part of me where you know, like, you come here into the country first and one of your first experiences that most immigrants go through is like so, um, something raised up in terms of like you know even kids, right, because you know it is what it is, you're a kid, whatever but the, the food in the cafeteria thing, I think a lot of you know minorities have experienced that right, where kids are like ew, like why your food smells so bad, and shit like that. Right, like, oh, are you eating dog shit, like stuff like that. And um, I just realized like, yeah, maybe you know triggers are a thing. You know even it, even though it happened you know 20, 30 years ago or whatever. Right, yeah, where at work, like a few weeks ago, um, you know, there's a lot of white people at my work, obviously, just given where we live, and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:And, yeah, this guy that you know I, yeah, you know I consider him like a, like a friend. Yeah, just like he just like someone made a comment, so I brought my own food, I brought my own chopsticks and stuff like that. So I made a comment about like, oh, like, are your utensils in that little box, or whatever. Made a comment about like, oh, like, are your utensils in that little box, wherever? And then, and then he was like no, he's just eating like, the food with his hands, like a dog or something.
Speaker 1:And I was like I, I think he was trying to defend me. I can't really uh, make like sure, I, I just and maybe it was out of context because I was like just walking into the conversation, but I, I don't know, it just triggered something for me again where I was like, are you saying you like dogs? Like? I'm sure that's not what he meant. Yeah, I was in the mick in the moment. I literally like gripped his shoulder and I was like, hey, bro, be careful when you put the words uh, chinese, you'll eat dogs like together, you know. And he was like whoa, like that's not what I meant at all and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:I was like speech is clumsy. I assume it's not what you meant, but it's what I heard. And but this is where, like, the whole trauma thing comes in right. Well, maybe he was just actually trying to defend me from you know something the other colleague said and I just misfired or something. But uh, yeah, it's still, you know it, it hits. It still hits at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like it still hits At the same time. Yeah, yeah, like it's understandable, like he could be trying to say something. Speech is clumsy, yeah, but at the same time, yeah, like you have the right to say what you have to say. Yeah, at the same time.
Speaker 1:The kid was 13. No, fuck that kid. He should have worn a sign that said shame on his fucking neck and stood on the table of that Chinese restaurant for eight hours. Bro, he was 13, so I can understand how he can not understand how to interact with the world At the same time, he should know how to interact with the world. Yet, at the same time, you should know how to interact with the world better by that age, at a 13? What are you like? Great summer. But if his dad, who's 43, is like, oh, that's not bad of a joke, I congratulate and command the lady for putting the kid on the right track and making him do that embarrassing thing. You have to do a lot of embarrassing things, starting at 13, heading all the way through your teenage years. That's probably gonna have a form of uh impact on his life and then, if it doesn't, well, I have a whole other parenting challenge that you're gonna have to fucking get through straight up.
Speaker 1:And I do agree with the approach in terms of like um, I love that we're like, oh, it's gonna be a funny podcast. And now for episode one, politics, episode two, race. But I do agree with the approach that she took there. It seems very, you know, well thought out and educated. In terms of like, I think understanding removes stigma, yeah, right, and so like having her son do the whole thing and the research and then presenting on chinese culture and getting that better understanding, and like, potentially, hopefully even like the struggles of chinese people as they immigrate to various countries in the world, um, well, hopefully, if the kid has any sort of empathy, you know, prompt and reduce the, the incident level in the future, right, yeah, I don't think she's the asshole. Oh, fuck you. You're a hero, bro.
Speaker 1:What Lady? If you're hearing this, for some reason you are not the asshole, confirmed From a Chinese guy and a black guy. This is funny. I'm not pre-reading these. Off the dome, this is funny. I'm not pre-reading these, I fight it. Yeah, this one's really long. Off the dome, off the dome, this is really long.
Speaker 1:I'm the asshole for calling my mom when my husband refused to listen to me. Wait, am I the asshole for calling my mom? Oh, interesting, okay, so getting your mom for support? Yeah, I, 26 female, recently moved into my first home. I am also four months pregnant with our first baby. Okay, pregnancy horn. Okay, like I don't know. So she is never the asshole, to be honest. If you're, okay, shout out to psa, to the world. If you're a fucking woman performing the miracle of life, yeah, you are bearing the child. That advances human civilization. Should we just cut it out there, like I don't want to hear the rest? Nothing, yeah, cut that one, but like nothing you can possibly ever fucking do makes you the asshole while you're pregnant. Okay, you are a goddess, never doubt yourself. Yeah, that's my stance, anyway, sorry, yeah, she is not the asshole, for whatever it is that she did. Oh, this one's hilarious, this one's obvious. Am I the asshole for wearing a wedding dress at a wedding? Wait, but not at a wedding? No like so.
Speaker 1:My friend 20 female and I, 19 male have been friends wait what? Okay? Okay, this is my chasing friends for a few years and she recently got a j engaged. A week ago I got a dm from her for a small costume party she was hosting as a celebration for her getting engaged. I asked if there was a theme and she said there wasn't. I'm a cosplayer, so I had a lot of choices. I didn't rock up in an anime cosplay, so I thought I would be. It would be funny to go to an engagement party as a corpse bride, wait. So is this a girl? Right here is the guy writing it's a guy. He's a 19 male. His friend is getting married. Okay.
Speaker 1:I arrived at her house yesterday and everything seemed normal. A few people complimented my costume and I was having a lot of fun. After 10 minutes, my friend's fiancee walked out in a black tuxedo and announced this was actually their wedding. Oh, why would you not tell me beforehand, though? What the fuck? Oh, fuck, okay, this changes everything, everything, apparently.
Speaker 1:My friend saw a video of sublet doing this and wanted to do the same. He asked us all to go to the backyard for the ceremony to begin. I went straight to him. I asked him if I should quickly go home and change my outfit and that I would get back before it started, and he told me it was fine, since I didn't know that this was a wedding. Okay, so they saw a trend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that said surprise all your guests, don't tell them they're going to the actual fucking wedding. But when they get there, it's an actual wedding. And they they used to ploy with costume party. Yes, society is fucking bored. Hey, like I assumed it was just because she was tired. She was tired. I think this says tried, but like, yeah, I should say tired. Yeah, from the big day and one in summer alone time. I didn't bother her after that and the party soon ended. Oh wait, I missed something. I trusted them and followed everyone outside and they got married and everything seemed good. The reception was just in their house again, and so everyone just walked back inside and picked up where they left off. I tried talking to my friend and celebrating with her, but she was making I'm just using this not to tell it to me. Okay, first of all, I thought it was just like one way. He's obviously the asshole, yeah, but he's not. I'm saying that way, I'll finish the rest.
Speaker 1:I got home and a half an hour passed when my phone started getting notifications. I checked and it was my friend texting me. She was cussing me out, damn, and telling me how I ruined her wedding, which he didn't know was a wedding. And I was like really confused and I asked what I did. That only made her more angry. She told me it was basic knowledge not to wear a wedding dress to a wedding. I remind her I had no idea it was a wedding fair and also it's like your guy. So it's like it's obviously. Yeah, it's no joke, yeah, or some kind of ploy, or is it, of course, right to show to, uh, a corpse wedding?
Speaker 1:And and that I asked her her now husband, if I should change and he said said it was fine, facts, facts. She didn't respond, but I got a text from her husband. Oof, I feel bad for her. He has to. He has to. He asked why I would. He said it was fine. He's like bro, you're already under the bus. Who the fuck would you bring me with you? I told him he said it was fine and then he said how I should have changed anyways, and it was my fault for that. The two are now fighting over this part of the everyone's under the age of 25. So this is, yeah, that's a young wedding. Yeah, I've, I've tried texted her that I I would. I want to say sorry that I was sorry. It says I would. Yeah, mr Sorry, and if I had known I would have done it. I woke up today and saw her and her husband have blocked me on everything. Oh shit, they should not be getting married if they act like this. So am I the asshole for not changing out of the wedding dress when I found out that it was actual weddings and it has an edit here? I am a guy.
Speaker 1:I cosplayed the character Emily from the Corpse Bride and had her blue paint all over. Okay, I'm also Australian. Okay, I don't know what, the what, and I've never had a costume party, meaning fancy. Okay, that's fair, they're all good cunts down there. Everyone I was dressed up. We are never getting YouTube approved, bro, and everyone was dressed up in funny costumes.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's the asshole. No, no, definitely not. Just miscommunication after miscommunication, bro, when you're 125, you shouldn't be getting married anyways, dude, and this is a comedy, yeah, I mean like, uh, yeah, you know number one. So two years, I mean 25, what do you do? You come out of university. Uh, yeah, you come out of university at like 22, 21?, 21? No, 22, 21. 21? No, I came out at like 23, 24, bro, I came out at 20. Yeah, yeah, okay. So this guy is obviously not the asshole.
Speaker 1:But many questions for this bride and groom, because I'm like obviously the communication is not strong. It's like, are they going to make it? We don't know. Are they going to contribute to the 55% divorce rate? We don't know. Are they gonna contribute to the 55 percent divorce rate? I don't know. It'll surprise our guests at our wedding and tell them it's a costume party and then change it to an actual wedding. Yeah, okay, and that's gonna be mad at them for showing up in the long costume. What a wild ass, fucking logic is this bad guy? I can't even. I can't even. Oh. Random question Do you stay for the whole dancing stuff after the wedding?
Speaker 1:Oh, fuck it. Oh, I mean, I'm totally. I leave a meal, oh, really. Yeah, wait, but it depends on how close your friend is At my wedding. If you dip out halfway, my guy, dude, I'd dip out after during the dance session. Like I'm out, I'm done with my mother's wedding. But like, were any of them your best friends when they? What are your best friends when they dance? I'll say they're close friends, but like, I'd still dip out Because I just don't like dancing At my wedding. I stay to listen to your parents Talk about how they thought you were learning About the eventual diamonds.
Speaker 1:I stay for those parts and that's usually right before the dance, and then I'll stay for like five minutes and then I'll dip, okay. But the question is, I'll say hi to you, my wedding, my wedding dance, and then I'll stay in for like five minutes and then I'll dip, okay. But the question is, I'll say hi to my wedding, my wedding, to which you're most likely gonna be wedding party. Yeah, you're not gonna stay for the dance. You're not gonna shut down my wedding for me. All my what? Oh? I should preface this I was never working party at the wedding. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Facts, facts, facts. If I was with a party, that's a different responsibility. But like, if I'm just a regular, you know you'd be a wedding party. If I'm lying right, actually, I'm wait, I did, I did. That was wedding party. Which is D&J's Wait, d& oh, facts, yeah, facts. And yeah, yeah, and that was hella intimate and whatever. Right, we all did our thing, screaming, and you were fucking rocking a fever then too, no, and you still, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still can. Yeah, it's fucking loyalty, loyalty, what we value.
Speaker 1:I flew in from Thailand. Yeah, that was crazy, that was crazy. That gave me clutch too. Okay, will this surgery thing fit into the Tommy thing? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Okay, is that a wrap on the episode? You want to wrap it? Do one more. Yeah, we got one more. I'll try one more. Okay, okay, fuck it. All. Right, last one, last one, last one. Okay, I'm just going to. We gotta, we actually have to go soon.
Speaker 1:Well, hello, yo, just like the olden days there, straight up, no one could tell, no one could tell. Uh, for all the new partiers out there in the world, get a clear soda pop thing with a clear alcohol, mix it together, carry the soda bottle everywhere you go. Boom, boom, done. Okay, this one's crazy. Oh, I'm like the for yelling at my parents that their polyamory up my tailbone, that their polyamory fucked up my tablet. Ooh, okay, I mean, that's already going to be a no Lol. Okay, it has an edit at the beginning To all of you who DM me to tell me about how fucking great polyamory is that you're mad. I gave it a bad name. You have issues If that's what you take away from this post.
Speaker 1:I believe it started when I was around 60 years old. My parents often had friends over in the house. I didn't know that they were polyamorous, of course. One day I was outside playing God Hurt and when I ran inside I called my parents making out with a random guy. They told me they have other adults that they love and it's a completely normal thing. Me, being a child, just accepted that that they. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, kids will believe anything. They gave up, uh, being secretive and their partners would constantly be around, even joining on outings. I remember that's weird. I remember that on my 10th birthday they invited me, invited three of their partners oh, they are a fucking Damn One of who I've never seen before and the rest of the day my parents just withdrew from my party and hung out with them. I never saw them doing anything explicit again, but they would kiss with their partners, hug them, make flirty comments something that would be normal between parents, but with many more people Sometimes I came home from school and my parents were gone and there was just some random adult in our house and some of them seemed surprised that they're, that my parents even had a child.
Speaker 1:I always hated it, but since my parents just told me, since my parents had told me this was normal, I assumed many adults probably did similar things and that it's just an adult thing all kids hate. Later they had less partners and eventually seemed to stop. Now that I've known for sure, because I moved out with 17. Okay, that's a terrible sentence. I used to go into trauma, right, and you're crying, you know, hiking through the tears. I didn't think about it.
Speaker 1:A year ago I started therapy other reasons, as usual. The topic of my operation came up and I brought it up, uh, brought it back many, many feelings that I wasn't aware of. I realized that although my parents were always good to me that's good here I had never really felt close to any of them and still have a lot of resentment that they made me feel like I had to compete for my parents' attention over random strangers. That is something I could never understand. A while ago I visited them and they told me they are going to take part in a documentary about polyamorous men what? And that the producers would like to include interviews with the children. So they would love if I could agree and tell everyone that polyamory doesn't mess up kids.
Speaker 1:All my resentment bubbled up and I said I cannot agree because I would not be able to say anything positive. My parents looked shocked. I never brought this up before and asked why, and I unloaded all day on them and that I always felt pushed aside. We barely had any family time Without strangers intruding. It turned into an argument and I became loud and yelled that the truth is it did fuck me up and they shouldn't have had A child if their number one priority Was fucking the whole world. My, my mother cried. My father said I should probably leave. So I left and I was shaking up for the rest of the week and I also felt regret because I never made uh, my mom cry before. Later my father sent me a message and I was like we are sorry, you feel that way. Can we have a calm discussion about this? Even though I tried, it's like I can't reply.
Speaker 1:This argument brought something very emotional up with me. Am I the asshole for hurting my parents over this, especially since I have never brought it up before. I don't know, they had a lot of orgasms by the sounds of it, bro, like that's, I don't even know what to say. I don't like to think of my parents as sexual, even though that's the reason I'm here. Facts, let's not. Let's not traumatize ourselves right now. But like I could never imagine here, facts, let's talk, let's start for all the times ourselves right now. But like could you? I? I could never imagine my parents, who I love truly and dearly, even though they have their own flaws, just make it out of a trip. That would just blow my mind like if I, if, if, who I am, as now, a thick, muscular black guy, 3c59.
Speaker 1:I saw someone make it out with either of my parents. I would fight that. I'd be like you're taking advantage of my parents, you want their money? Yeah, fuck that later. But like I don't think the parents are wrong either. Oh shit, okay, fucking phone call came in and I paused that. So yeah, um, I think you're saying like you're gonna fight somebody. If you saw your parents make well, I would never fight them. But yeah, I don't believe the parents either, though. What well, like everything was consensual, the child wasn't harmed sexually. So, like that, that's what I'm concerned about, yeah, but sexually. But like, mentally, yes, yes, but like, is it that much worse than a child getting messed up because, like, their parents don't care about them? Like, I feel the parents, in this sense what the the poster said they did care about him. He just felt like he had to compete for them because of other people, and I do think that's weird, but I don't think it's like, oh yeah, your parents are the worst people in the world. You know what I mean? No, I mean I wouldn't say that they're the worst people in the world, because I mean, well, we know parents that are fucking wild, right, but this is, you know.
Speaker 1:First thing that popped in my head was this is why we need people to take tests and get a license if we're having kids, because, like, I mean, this is very clearly, you know, like attachment issues in the making. You know, do you believe, uh, you can have a successful polyamorous relationship with a child? With a child? No, I don't believe so. Okay, that's interesting because I mean, how? Like there's no, because, know what do children need, right? So I feel like, now that I'm fully diving into attachment theory and you know the psychology behind it. It's like you need, like, stability, consistency and trust are three of the biggest things to build a security. Well, you can be polyamorous and just have one partner, one extra partner, and that partner could be consistent throughout the child's life.
Speaker 1:Would that not fit what the child needs? I think it would be different than what it was positioned as we all heard the term, I don't understand what you're saying. We all heard the term. It takes a village, but it didn't sound like these guys were raising their kids. They were just like, oh, what the fuck are you doing their kids? Yeah, like they're just like oh, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1:Is the problem that they're polyamorous or is the problem is that the people that they're polyamorous with are just short-time planes because, like, let's say, it's a single mom and she just has a rotation, a rotation of uh, men coming through, or it's a single dad and he has a rotation of women coming through. I think that's just as bad as what they get, because it sounds like they just had a complicate of people just coming through and going out and this would be different dudes making out, and that's traumatizing. But if it was the same person. At a certain point the kid would be like, okay, this is like, this is weird, it's a feature, but like, this is someone my parents trust and I trust them because I see them around all the time. Yeah, they haven't harmed me, yeah, so that's fine. So I do think in a sense, you can have a polyamorous relationship and it'd be non-harmful to the kid.
Speaker 1:But the way they were practicing their polyamory was not the vibe, it was just like ramming people all the time. I do agree with that. I do agree with that. I see what you mean. I do agree with that. I think I think, whatever it is like, I think they should have kept it secret, to be honest, like they eventually was like, oh well, if you found out, like, why keep the fucking facade or charade up? Right, but I think it was important to just. I think they, after that secret reveal, they put their meat over their child's. Yeah, I can agree with that, because I was like, oh wow, now we don't do any work and fucking, yeah, let's just fucking live our orgasm life or whatever, and then we're good to go right. So what if my kid sees the show Like he always saw it once and it sounds like you, like, from the way he was right, you know, sounded like he was just the only child, so that's a lot to deal with.
Speaker 1:As the only child, no, I'm just assuming he was, or, and I'm also assuming it was, a hit. I don't know if it was like, oh sure, I grew up to him, but I mean, I don't know much about polyamory, but like, it seems like adding a child to the equation of a multiple partner relationship would be quite complicated. Yeah, just as a baseline, let alone when they start hitting teenage years and formulating attachment styles and all those things. You know. Like I don't even like dating single moms because of that reason. Because, like I, I feel like it's just like you have to take the child's feelings into it as a consideration, can you?
Speaker 1:Because if you're dating a single mom, right and it gets serious, yeah, you meet the kid. Yeah, once you meet the kid, you have a serious commitment to keep that relationship going. And it's hard to say like, if you're a decent human being, yeah, if you're like a decent human being. If you're not a decent human being, you. If you're a decent human being, yeah, if you're like a decent human being. If you're not a decent human being. You're like, yeah, fuck that kid, you can't just like break up with the girl. Yeah, things aren't working out between you two personally, even if it's amicable Fast, and you have to keep the child in consideration, so I wouldn't even risk that with that going in.
Speaker 1:I think the only people worse than that is the people who know that they have a kid and join in the polyamorous relationship, but aren't the parents, but the parents for sure, on a consistent basis on average. What they did was deserving of condemnation, perfect, and with that listeners, y'all tell us, you know, do you think that was kind of fucked up? Because I guess, what are we settling on? Have conscious polyamory, but if you can't have conscious polyamory and you're too orny, just don't have kids as two people who know nothing on the subject, alright, peace out Bang.